Comments on: Chimp Haven sued but denies the claims, of course http://primatology.net/2006/12/15/chimp-haven-sued-but-denies-the-claims-of-course/ We ain’t monkeyin’ around here. Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:16:46 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Abbe http://primatology.net/2006/12/15/chimp-haven-sued-but-denies-the-claims-of-course/#comment-9283 Abbe Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:28:03 +0000 http://primatology.org/2006/12/15/chimp-haven-sued-but-denies-the-claims-of-course/#comment-9283 I just thought that perhaps an update would be appropriate on this comment. All lawsuits except the one about bringing back the Keithville Crewe have been dropped against Chimp Haven. I think that says a lot about what they were based on and the validity of the claims. I know that everyone is passionate about the chimps and wants the best for them but I do believe that sometimes the human ego gets a little out of control and obviously it has in some of these situations. If there was really something wrong and someone felt passionately about it, why would you persue it for years in the legal system only to let it go? Perhaps it just takes some time for people to get over themselves, let go of anger for not being in control or getting their way. I do wish that they would find a more private way to do it. Because filing a lawsuit does nothing good for the organization and wastes thier money on legal fees rather than enrichment for the chimps. It's good to be passionate about animals but it's useless to try to join forces to grind a personal agenda. I would have more respect for those people if they followed through on their allegations, even if they were false. But to just let them go only means that it was personal and not about the chimps in the first place. I just thought that perhaps an update would be appropriate on this comment.
All lawsuits except the one about bringing back the Keithville Crewe have been dropped against Chimp Haven. I think that says a lot about what they were based on and the validity of the claims. I know that everyone is passionate about the chimps and wants the best for them but I do believe that sometimes the human ego gets a little out of control and obviously it has in some of these situations. If there was really something wrong and someone felt passionately about it, why would you persue it for years in the legal system only to let it go? Perhaps it just takes some time for people to get over themselves, let go of anger for not being in control or getting their way. I do wish that they would find a more private way to do it. Because filing a lawsuit does nothing good for the organization and wastes thier money on legal fees rather than enrichment for the chimps. It’s good to be passionate about animals but it’s useless to try to join forces to grind a personal agenda. I would have more respect for those people if they followed through on their allegations, even if they were false. But to just let them go only means that it was personal and not about the chimps in the first place.

]]> By: Unexpected birth at Chimp Haven « Primatology.org http://primatology.net/2006/12/15/chimp-haven-sued-but-denies-the-claims-of-course/#comment-347 Unexpected birth at Chimp Haven « Primatology.org Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:44:22 +0000 http://primatology.org/2006/12/15/chimp-haven-sued-but-denies-the-claims-of-course/#comment-347 [...] given the recent allegations Chimp Haven has faced (discussed in previous posts/comments from Kambiz and DAB), as successful breeding has generally been seen as a sign of good [...] [...] given the recent allegations Chimp Haven has faced (discussed in previous posts/comments from Kambiz and DAB), as successful breeding has generally been seen as a sign of good [...]

]]> By: DAB http://primatology.net/2006/12/15/chimp-haven-sued-but-denies-the-claims-of-course/#comment-53 DAB Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:10:24 +0000 http://primatology.org/2006/12/15/chimp-haven-sued-but-denies-the-claims-of-course/#comment-53 Regarding the death of Woodruff, obesity was the primary factor. He was dangerously obese when he arrived at Chimp Haven. However, during the 16 months that he lived there, the management dismissed several suggestions by staff to control the amount of food the chimps were given. So Woodruff did not lose any weight, and may have even gained weight, despite the fact that he was already a high risk for heart attack. In 16 months, he could have lost weight if the management had decided to make it happen. In addition to his obesity, Woodruff was partially paralyzed due to a botched experiment years ago in a lab. Because of his physical condition, he would have been unable to escape from an attack by another chimp, yet shortly before his death he was placed in a group with three aggressive males. The law suit suggests that his heart attack may have been brought on by an attack from one of these males. The autopsy report should shed more light on that. In any case, it didn't make sense to place a disabled chimp in a hostile environment. Woodruff was a good guy who needed special care. But one of Chimp Haven's biggest flaws is the management's lack of attention with special needs chimps. The chimps there that don't fit in anywhere often end up in bad circumstances. Regarding the death of Woodruff, obesity was the primary factor. He was dangerously obese when he arrived at Chimp Haven. However, during the 16 months that he lived there, the management dismissed several suggestions by staff to control the amount of food the chimps were given. So Woodruff did not lose any weight, and may have even gained weight, despite the fact that he was already a high risk for heart attack. In 16 months, he could have lost weight if the management had decided to make it happen.

In addition to his obesity, Woodruff was partially paralyzed due to a botched experiment years ago in a lab. Because of his physical condition, he would have been unable to escape from an attack by another chimp, yet shortly before his death he was placed in a group with three aggressive males. The law suit suggests that his heart attack may have been brought on by an attack from one of these males. The autopsy report should shed more light on that. In any case, it didn’t make sense to place a disabled chimp in a hostile environment.

Woodruff was a good guy who needed special care. But one of Chimp Haven’s biggest flaws is the management’s lack of attention with special needs chimps. The chimps there that don’t fit in anywhere often end up in bad circumstances.

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