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By: 2006 pictures of infant orangutans

2006 pictures of infant orangutans — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:31:24 +0000

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By: francis kendall

francis kendall — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:50:08 +0000

The track official signaled the track was ready. The tiny infant apes four of them where wheeled out in thier cages and lined up each one at the gate. The crowd was huge the first race in the orphan leagye was starting soon. The first handler opened the top of the cage and grabbing the tiny squeaking baby bonobo and holding it upside down she held the elctric clippers to its tiny butt shaving the fur off down to the pink. then hoding the struggling squeaking baby she held it dangling next the orangutan baby was shaven along with the gorilla baby and finally the hoot hooting chimp with huge ears. All the tiny infants werenot older than two weeks fresh from thier dead mothers. The orangutan was given gravol being airsick a bit. but allof them were shaved upside down quivering sphicters clenching as the cool breeze blew. now holding dripping sponges loaded with highest otane fuel the sponges were jammed up to the infants butts . The turpentine went to work immediately, each infant raring to go thier tiny faces set in their unique grins and their lims windmilling madly. . And they are off! well the tiny short legged huge bellied orangutan baby is taking the lead its short tiny legs drubbing down the track both of its tiny hands clenching its butt, but here comes the pack all grinning and banging into each other trying to outrun thier flaming butts. coming into the first turn the tiny chimpanzee infant is coming on strong and oh no the chimpanzee baby has exploded folks it burining and screaming reeling around the track oh the horror the humantiy folks a good racing infant wasted like that the yellow banana flag is out but the little speed demons ignore it still tearing along the gorilla baby now going past the tiny orangutan pulling on its funny bulbous head to launch himself ahead and the orangutan stubles and oh a hard smack right into the wall folks, oh hes not moving here comes the meat wa..uh ambulance and they are carriny the limp racer and we can see a major dent in the top of its bulb shaped head oph that’ll take some good metal but the sponsir has lots of beads and trinkets. the bonobo is pulling ahead of the gorilla ow then the gorilla jumps on the bonos back and start to beat the shit out of the squeeing infant banging its tiny head off the track (suspicion of rampant steroid use see how the gorilla is foaming at the mouth) off the track the bonobos grin still in place its yeys crossing as its head is dinging the florr. the gorilla satisfied that the bonobo is disabled gets off the tiny crumpled ape and jiggy jigs across the finish line still dancing around. What a race folkks carnage crashes exploding infants apes come back next week when the Jane Goodape( 500 feet)is running here! theres something for everybody, t shirts baby ape fingers deep fried, with sides of flayed orangutan meat, and todays special barbecued infant orangutans, but you pick em and you shoot the mother and you peel the tiny shitting sqeuaking baby off and we tie it and slathering it up to its neck in barbecues sauce the tiny flopping thing is gently dropped onto the grille. There also mini safaris hunt em shoot them and pack them home. for a small fee. yesiree here at apes r us we have everything for the vacation you’ve always wanted

By: francis kendall

francis kendall — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:27:47 +0000

The mother orangutan sat there with the stupidist look on her face, he dropped his sights and saw a tiny bulb shaped infants head twisting aound to get at moms breast but mom vacantly pushes it away. The baby was only days old its Tiny face crumpling into a collapsed moue as mom pushes it aeay. But on the edge he sees another tiny figure clinging to the other side! Twins! He adjusts his aim and fires the mother ape slipping onto her side a hole appearing in her fore head and with a sigh she goes on her side causing the other baby to crawl towards the other twin the hunter pulls the second tiny struggling infant off the dead mom first then he tears the other twin off both are looking up at him thier tiny torsos twisting in his hands thier tiny arms pushing feebly to get away the tiny legs are drubbing away with zero grip. He ties thin cord around the left ankle of one tiny ape a to the right ankle of the other ape with a foot between them. they both try to go in different directions and it so funny he gets his mini cam out to record the ensuing antics. Both tiny apes end up on their butss sqeuking and tring ti drag the opther backwards. Using the bungee cord he hung them by the cord and he hung them upside down to see what they would do. Well the first tiny orang used its oversized belly to bump the other one away, but every time it would swing away it would come crashing back smacking the pusher ape good. The hunter laughed himself silly at the acrobatics display. Then one tiny ape got the bright idea of climbing up the other one to get to the top it began by pulling the other ape down and stepping on its huge belly then mashing its untied foot into the other apes face and it hauled itself up to a point until the bungee coed snapped back semding booth apes into a rocketing yo yo sending an orange fur ball tangled together in a mish mash of bulb heads tangled tiny limbs . The hunter fell over laughing as the tiny squeking things tried ti disentangle from each other. Finally bored the hunter lined up a wooden cage on its side about five feet away and pulling back on the orangutans holding each tiny head like an arrow and he fired the apes. The tiny squeeking apes cleared the line and hurtled tumbling end over end with flashes of funny faces to be reversed to tiny butts the sphincters tightly puckered back to the funny facial expressions going on as the apes careen towards the cage. And kabing! the baby apes hit the rim of the doors bouncing up in the air they both landed on the edge of the riverbank with a plop. Unfortunately the hunters entertainment was cut short as a crocodile came boiling out of the water snatching both tiny infants up halfway in its jaws thier lower halves frimly held in the crocs needle teeth the tiny apes actually screming in terror as the croc backs up both tiny apes upper torsos and thier tiny arms flailing to no avail. As if the croc knew the hunter could do nothing but stand on shore and watch as the croc bit down gulping the bottom halves of the tiny apes down as its teeth still were imbeded in the shreds of what was left. The tiny apes were not dead but both things shuddered and screamed low and died. The hunter was soo mad! now he would have to find two mothers with newborns.

By: Kambiz Kamrani

Kambiz Kamrani — Sat, 25 Sep 2010 03:03:39 +0000

Give it up man, seriously… give it up.

By: cyrill bogdan

cyrill bogdan — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:56:05 +0000

I would like to know… just how do the ape saving people do thier math? According to (unsubstantiated) claims that orangutans gorillas chimpanzees and bonobos are going to be extinct in the wild in 10-15-25 years is not adding up. This claim was being published fifteen years ago, but no independant unbiased body has ever confirmed these numbers. A former police chief tried to visit nyaru menteng in Borneo to gather facts, on the numbers. He was refused by them as they cited fears of human diseases infecting the orangutans, especially the infant orphans. Well he did ask the question as to why the surrogate mothers to these infant orangutans leave the center every evening to go home, having contact with many humans in the community some who he was sure are nursing a cold or malria , but these women go back and forth daily. He got no answer for his query. He had contacted a number of ape rescue centers in borneo sumatra and africa via mail to make enquiries and to date he has not recieved a single reply from any of them. He is not a cynical poop disturber but he actually took the time to do his research, before he blindly gave money to the save the apes foundations. Through hard research and tenacious digging he uncovered a few very disturbing facts. Since 1999 when Lone Droescher Nielson opened the Orangutan rescue rehabilitation center there has not been one orangutan rescued who has been released into the wild, not one despite the claims by her that these apes are regularily released back into the wild. The infants as they grow are released onto an island in a group, where they are fed daily and if ill are taken back to the center to be nursed back to health. In fact her center is so packed that she puts out appeals for money to build more inadequate cages to keep these adult animals penned up but never released. The fact that all the infant ape orphans are treated just like human infants, coddled by surrogate human mothers, diapered medicated dressed in human infant clothing being bottle fed with human infant formula, are being altered by this incessant human contact, where they grow totally dependant on humans, turning out to be nothing more than caged pets never to be released successfully into the wild. The fact that these solitary animals are being made to grow and live in groups is doing nothing but making these apes reliant on constant human intervention. I watch Going Ape on animal planet and the same thing is going on with the human influence on these baby apes. The woman Dr. Sheri Speede is freaking out over the mauling of nino a smal infant chimp by an aggresive older male and she pulls all the stops to save nino, going as far as to operate on nino, etc. In the wild nino would have either survived or died as nature intends, but this unbalanced human intervention is altering the natural instinct of these apes.Goodall caused the Chimpanzees of Gombe to increase thier aggression, by feeding these apes causing these dangerous animals to no longer fear humans losing thier instict to forage in a wide territory becoming dependant on a human to feed. The actions taken by ape centers are altering the fundamental nature of animals. All I truly see is the creation of a disasterously dependant sub species of apes forever dependant on humans for food health and nurturing. Not one of these infants is a true ape anymore the line between human and ape has been blurred by the ape advocates to the point of Nations declaring human rights for apes, thats right personhood has already been conferred upon apes, by both Spain and Austria. I can never condone the slaughter of a species, but niether would I condone the altering of the apes nature to serve the purpose and needs of a few. The everpresent statements that these animals share anywhere from 95-98% of our D.N.A. are misleading, these claims are not completely true. Genetic scientists will firmly tell anyone that the lackingthat 2-5% is the differnce between humanity and animals, who are totally different from humans, like growing wings or an extra set of limbs or other physical/mental differences that can be seen as plain as the light of day. I do question all of this work based on a healthy desire to get past the cute infant apes who
are doomed to a life dependant on humans, just like the “Orphaned baby apes they rescue”. The only thing to do is to release these animals back into the wild, Mother Nature will ensure the strong survive and the weak will be culled out by predators, or starvation, thanks to the useless skills they are taught by the humans who think they can teach the babies, better than any adult female orangutan who will adopt an infant if she does not have her own. The secrecy and and the veil of disinformation put out is indicitave of something is wrong with the slick media presentations put out by these organizations. These are legitamate concerns not an indictment. I have held infant apes rejected by thier mothers at the zoo I worked at and I saw the negative results when after a few weeks when returned to mother they are rejected again. Just like the mother and baby chimp that was initially rejected by mother once (after escaping) and twice when the woman brought the infant back. to see if mother would take it but mom brushed it off her and walked away. The problem I saw both times the woman stayed and gawped at both the apes influencing the mother to reject the baby twice, now the infant is being hand raised by a human. I hope this is not censored because I am asking legit questions and the statements I make are my opinion. These are only statements of my observations based on what I see and read in these sites.

By: lily langtree

lily langtree — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:30:30 +0000

I saw an orangutan clip on you tube and I was immediately stuck by the way the human staff treated these animals like human infants. Then according to the narrator a a horrible event took place. a small infant was fifty feet up in a tree and the thing lost its grip and fell out of the tree. i have never seen such panic among the staff. They rushed the tiny ape into a hut where a human doctor not a vet but an M.D. started to call for various medical equipment including oxygen. I want to know why a M.D. is working there, and not administering his help to humans, but these apes. These orangutans are considered pests by the majority of the natives because these animals destroy the palm oil plants that the people depend on for their paltry income. I do not blame the native peoples for killing these pests (we have a coyote problem and we shoot them whenever we can and we would never tolerate any interference by any save the coyote people. You people have gone to a foreign country and you decide how the native populace should live. You place these animals above humanity, and condem humans roundly yet at the same time you want us to donate to your cause after you blame us in the west for somehow being the cause for these animals becoming extinct. You have people like Amman who present us with slick posed images and like that Mitty says you add ludicrous captions designed to elicit sympathy for your cause, and yet Mitty and others have pointed out just how phony your campaign is. I have watched the same clips and nowhere is a baby gorilla ” being kicked or even taunted” And you people actually give captions to photos of diapered infant apes who are living much better than some unfortunate human beings. I tell you if It were up to me your supplies would be diverted to human use to save human lives. Your centers would be shut down and you would be expelled from the country and as for the apes the apes who could not fend for them selves one year and under would be sold to accredited zoos, and the rest to be released into the wild, and these apes would either survive, (which could be iffy since you people have already corrupted the apes true nature, by having them crammed together in groups thus destroying the solitary nature of these animals, shame on you!!!), or become food for clouded leopards, or other predators. your propaganda campaign does expose your desperate tactics and is an insult to a person who does their research and figures out that you people use stats which no one can prove to bolster your assertions, and to add insult to injury you people try to shove these infants animals on us as human. You are disgusting liars!!!!

By: walter mitty

walter mitty — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:35:19 +0000

You ape lovers sicken me. You skew numbers to fullfill your agenda, you have people like Amman who put such ludicrous captions as “this baby gorilla is being kicked and taunted” with film footage that shows no such thing happening. Why does the save the orangutan series have footage of the bos rescue team darting an orangutan, and later on they use the same footage to claim that the hunters just shoot these animals out of the trees, yet it is the same footage used in the previous clip. Just how stupid do you think we are? You compound your errors by humanizing these animals (it is know as anthromorphization), you give them attributes they do not possess, human attributes(this clearly shows how desperate you really are), like psychological trauma, another photo of an infant orangutan in human infant pajamas in a human crib and it is yawning, so you put the ridiculous caption “”this infant is clearly traumatized by seeing its mother killed.” what drivel you spout and how you twist the facts like when you claim that thousands of apes are being killed every year the sheer amount of orphaned apes you take in. If this were true your centers would be awash in bonobos chimpanzees gorillas and orangutans, you would not be able to feed that many in fact your centers would close due to overwhelming numbers of supposed orphans. That woman jane goodall has destroyed the Gombe chimps by feeding them (this caused them to stop foraging for food as they would have naturally), then she began touching the infants further corrupting the apes, and worst of all she treated them like humans. There is one particularily dangerous chimpanzee named frodo and adult who has already attacked a woman and tore her infant from her and ran off. This animal killed and partly ate the infant, and the only thing goodall would say was he was being territorial.! There were no consequences for the ape or for goodall! In my opinion this chimp shoul have been destroyed and the ape center shut down! It is sickening to hear these self titled primatologists blame humans, for the apes behavior. Humans are the superior species on this planet and apes are below us. I agree with medical testing on apes this research saves human lives, I agree that these are animals not human. You ape phonies condem humans wholesale, but you shove your slick propoganda media presentations down our throats presenting these animals as our relatives (bullshit!!!), and demanding that we give you even more money to “save the apes”. Hey how about we stop sending you money and we start supporting the human needs which are far more important than these animals. Stop the lying stop the whining and please stop blaming humans for the misguided work of goodall galdakis and their ilk.

By: Leilani

Leilani — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:24:35 +0000

Although all of us commenting on this website are having troubles seeing from each others point of view, you have to stop and think about how amazing it is that so many people have been able to express their views. No matter what debate it starts.

By: Leilani

Leilani — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:10:51 +0000

While I was in genetics class, my peers and I were debating about the “higher” species. One member of this discussion brought up an interesting point, that we consider ourselves predators to say the least. Predators eat predators, however. When you think about it, we are not predators, simply secondary or tertiary consumers. We ended saying that humans just force ourselves to believe we are above animals because we invented, say, the iPod first. You are completely correct in questioning the acceptability of devouring apes.

By: Leilani

Leilani — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:04:41 +0000

Terrific way of putting it.